I was listening to Mike Parsons “My journey to ‘see in the spirit‘” last night, and I liked how he described meditation. You can just take a verse and think about it as you speak in tongues, chew on it, all the time allowing the Lord to reveal the different depths of it. You could stay on one verse for months. So before I went to bed, I read Acts 17:28.
for “‘In him we live and move and have our being’; as even some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are indeed his offspring.'”
I woke up at 1:30am and realized God had been speaking to me in a dream.
We know that we are made in the image of God, and that we are sons of God. We also know we were created from the dust of the ground (Genesis 2:7), and that God breathed life into us. We know that ever since Adam and Eve, we have all been created by biological means, and are formed from the substance of our parents – we are their progeny, or offspring.
But according to Acts 17:28, we are more than that – we are God’s offspring. This goes way beyond being created and having life (spirit?) breathed into us. Since God is spirit, we are his spiritual offspring. Our spirits have come from the substance of God, just like our bodies have come from the substance of our parents. If we are offspring, then we began as spirit, got placed in a body, and will continue as spirit in eternity.
The context of the verse is that Paul is speaking to greeks about God, using passages from their own literature to make his point. Note that they (non-Christians) are included in this. We and they – all people everywhere – are His offspring.
I had previously been aware that God knew us (not just knew about us) before we were born (see Jeremiah 1:5 and Psalm 139:16). I had also heard various people talk about us being with God as spirit beings – maybe actually being in God and being born out of Him as offspring. I felt the Holy Spirit telling me that there was something to this, but I had no biblical grid for it, and so had been asking God to reveal to me if this was true.
What we don’t know is how long it was from the time we were created as spiritual offspring until we were breathed into a body – but even as I think this, I know the question is wrong, because eternity is not time, it is outside of time, and so the question of time lag makes no sense.
So … I wonder if there is memory in our spirit of being with God before we came to earth?
All true! Thank you for sharing! But I see an even bigger picture!
We have a spirit life with HIM as heavenly servants! Then one day GOD says to you, “Servant you have served US well, through this you have achieved the right to become a son of mine! You have seen how difficult your predecessors have found it, do you accept the challenge?
The reason I am sending you to earth is to receive a sole, this is necessary for you to have a mutual relationship with me, and you can only achieve this in and through MY SON YASHUA! The challenge will be that you find US on your own accord, as WE will remove the memory of your life with US!
As a messenger yourself you know that the messengers I will send to help you can only help redirect your path, but only you can make the choice to accept! You know through the fall of man, satan received the right to mislead you, and you know how he hates you and all the other heavenly beings who did not rebel with him against ME!
With this in mind and the knowledge that if you fail you will spend eternity with satan an all the fallen heavenly beings in his kingdom!
What is your answer, are you ready to accept?”
If you do accept, you start life (with a mature spirit) in the womb and live your fleshly life till you accept YASHUA and grow in the knowledge of HIM and HIS SON through the WORD and HIS HOLY SPIRIT! Only if you live in the path of HIS WORD, when you die you become a glorified son of GOD fully seated with YASHUA in heavenly places! (We are actually seated there in spirit now!)
Interesting perspective
hi there! i’ve been browsing through WP and fell upon your blog (no coincidence there huh?lol)
i am very interested in the things you’re writing about, as i’ve had some similar experiences and am always interested on how the Spirit of God moves…He always surprises me with little things that most won’t talk about in the open…
thanks for being transparent and honest about what you see and experience…it’s refreshing…
will be following your blog for sure! GBY!
really good question…I personally have no inkling of His Presence until I was in the womb… I was aware of Him there and it seemed perfectly normal that He was there, so perhaps I did have an awareness of who He is before being there..
What stood out to me was ‘we began as spirit, got placed in a body, and will continue as spirit in eternity’. That makes perfect sense. Kind of no beginning or end in our journey – just constantly being with God as He created us. Also, very reassuring.